Post by Whitedwarf on Sept 17, 2008 13:20:46 GMT -5
Hi,
Well, since I can't cope with the fact 'VISIONARIES' (1987) presents some small "mistakes", "bloopers", "flubs" or whatever you call 'em, I will fix EVERYTHING the best I can, just for the sake of it.
Call me "childish", I don't really care. I unflub the flubs.
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TOTEM FORMS, POWER STAFF, POWERS:
Some guy noticed the Totems, Bearers and images disappear or re-appear from both Power Staffs and chestplates without any friggin' logic reason... well, it's about some interferences in the Magical Light manifestations. Now you see it, now you don't. I think the energy (the Magical Light) 'stored' into the Visionaries works as a kind of "electricity". So, even if a Visionary has actually spent all the energy of his Power Staff, there are still remnants lying and creeping into it - that's why for brief lapses of time the image of the Bearer can re-appear even if the Staff is technically empty, and viceversa.
Another example, in the 4th episode, "The Price of Freedom":
During the Spectral Knight / Darkling Lord fight, Lexor punches Witterquick. During this little scene the totem on Lexor’s chest is of a blue cheetah rather than a green armadillo.
Temporary and skin-deep transmission of Magical Light. The chestplates works as receivers. Oddities like that can happen all the time when you deal with the Magical Light.
Mmmm... another interesting "error" someone spotted long time ago is INDEED a great evidence in my book! There's a sequence where Reekon manage to activate some sort of 'TORCH'. Energy-powered? No, of course, since electricity is an utopy on Prysmos since the accident.
This is the evidence (the one I was looking for) that Feryl and all the metal-awekeningVisionaries can indeed 'power'
any type of technology, not just vehicles!
As far as concerned Feryl: I also remember he used a sophisticated weapon (a 'Blaster' or something like that) which clearly belonged to the old technology as well.
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COLOURS and EQUIPPMENT:
1) The characters weren't terribly consistent there either, though its harder to notice with the motion. If you look at the screenshots you can see that the detail on the armour swaps around a lot (which
is one of the reasons I find it so hard to get a cannon image of each set of armour in mind) - with more or less detail depending on what you look at.
Prysmosian armours - being made by some unspecified alien material - are way too much 'fluid' and elastic, to the point the 'details' either wrap, fold or mix-up in the middle of a "motion". Samely, we can assume
that some of them use to reflect certain types of lights in such unusual manner. That's why Arzon's or Cryotek's armours colors revert or invert (whatever) for very short lapses of time.
2) Cryotek's helmet is sometimes coloured red instead of blue by mistake (1st episode and others).
See the previous answer. His armour has been forged by a Northalian smith who utilized a special type of tissue. By the right inclination of light, under special circumstances, the colours can briefly reverse themselves or acquire different chromatic tones. Remember, it's an alien planet after all.
Probably the same tissue constitutes the "basic material" to fashion Arzon's armour.
During the 3d episode, when the Spectral Knights escape from the prison, Arzon's armour appears red and blue for a split second.
As far as concerned Arzon, it's pretty clear that his hair have blonde shades, that's why in a scene of the 1st episode they appear as such (when Leoric is given his lion totem).
3) Leoric wears his gloves/gauntlets/whatevers one moment then isn't the next (I think the 4th episode is an example).
We viewers aren't meant to see the in-between scenes which are indeed supposed to be 'boring' as hell... they are IN-BETWEEN scenes for a reason!
Even in movies that frequently happens.
A scene where Leoric either wears or slips away his gloves (or the helmet, or whatever you want) is not THAT MUCH interesting in the biggest design of the screenplay. We don't watch it, but that's not a valid reason to affirm that it actually didn't happen! One moment before Leoric has the helmet, one moment after he hasn't. He dropped it. End of the story.
4)Sometimes the top of a staff is apparently missing. It is in crowd scenes when the staffs are strapped to their backs.
Easy. The staffs are strapped but not steady, and sometimes they can rotate on themselves, so the top (the "screen") can be placed with its side towards we viewers. Optical effect.
5) Now, the 'AMBUSH' scene in the 3d EPISODE where the Staffs went apparentely 'muddled up'.
My theory is that the Spectral Knights were bringing fake gold Staffs paired with the true ones in order to fool the Darkling Lords if they would have showed up!
Before the Darkling Lords Ambush, the Spectral Knights are apparently carrying the following staffs:
Leoric - one silver (his)
Galadria - one gold (Darkstorm's)
Cryotek - one of each (his and Cindarr's)
Witterquick - one of each (his and Cravex's)
Arzon - one silver (his)
Lexor's is missing (I presume Arzon got it)
In the close-up pictures they have the following staffs:
Arzon had two silver staffs (Witterquick gave 'Light-Speed' to him for a while)
Cryotek 1 gold / silver (his and Cindarr's)
Galadria one gold (Darkstorm's)
Leoric one silver
Witterquick (not shown)
Note: when the avalanche hits the Spectral Knights, all the Staffs appear 'silver' because the specific light reflection. It's just ONE LONG-SHOT anyway.
As the avalanche starts they have:
Cryotek has two silver staffs - his and Cindarr's
Whitterquick has two silver staffs - his and Cravex's
Arzon has two silver staffs (his and Lexor's, as I stated before)
In the close-up pictures:
Witterquick drops 2 gold staffs - Cravex's and Lexor's
Arzon drops 2 gold staffs (The two fake gold Staffs)
Galadria drops 1 gold staff - Darkstorm's
Cryotek has Cindarr's staff, as stated before.
Darkstorm then picks up two silver staffs and throws them off the cliff - (Cryotek's / Arzon's)
Cindarr picks up his staff, from Cryotek
Cravex picks up his and Lexor's staffs
Arzon then lands with two staffs, his and Cryotek's
Feryl has a silver staff at the end (Leoric's or Cryotek's, it doesn't matter. He was just helping along the way)
Again, we're not suppose to see the IN-BETWEEN scenes... and now... the biggest surprise of all:
The fake gold staffs show up later, in the last part of the episode! In fact, even Mortdredd and Reekon hand Power Staffs (?) when the Darkling Lords go to the Shrine in need of Magical Light re-charging. Well, maybe the two Darkling Lords hoped to imbue 'em with some magic as well... I'm a man of great vision.
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CHARACTER INCONSISTENCIES:
1) In the 4th episode Arzon and Feryl have a fight with the Darkling Lords, the Capture Chariot is damaged and they start slowly making their way home.
Yet in the next scene you can clearly see Arzon is among the Spectral Knights offering blankets to the Kamirites. In the next scene he's still making his way back with Feryl.
I've found the coolest solution in town, Visionaries fans all around the world. 'HE' was one of Leoric's 'regular' Knight disguised as Arzon --- think of him like a 'sparring double' (or a 'stand-in') to cover up the fact that one of the Spectral Knights is in fact missing. Leoric has wit, he's a d**n smart thinker. He knows that the Darkling Lords always lurk in the shadows, waiting for the precious moment in which the Spectral Knights are weaker or basically disjointed. So, in order to discourage them and so prevent fierce raids, the hero of New Valarak picked up a bunch of soldiers whose look-like and traits resembled those of the Spectral Knights. When some of the SK stay out of the castle for many days, and their presence is required for public and strategic appareances, the 'sparring doubles' are allowed to wear fake armours and mystificate the disappearence of Leoric's Visionary fellows.
The coming of the Kamirites was such a pivotal event that Leoric couldn't pay risks, he preferred to substitute Arzon, giving an 'esthetical' sense of unity to the crowd. Yet, Feryl was also missing, but having one member out is an okay thing, having two is simply too much.
2) At the beginning of the 2nd episode when the Darkling Lords are after Arzon, three of the Darkling Lords are on higher ground. Cindarr yells to attack or
something, but he isn't one of the three that jumps down. I think they were Cravex, Lexor and Mortdread. He was either invisible, has a very loud voice or someone does a pretty decent impression of him
Irrelevant. He was elsewhere, still yelling an screaming to encourage the passionate actions of his fellow Darkling Lords. Voices are often mistaken, however. A voice can sound louder than how it usually does. It happens all the time in real life.
3) In Lexor's activation poem he usually says blahblah... "swords rebel..." but at one point (sorry I can't remember when it was at the moment) I swear he said "repel" instead. This actually makes more sense if you think about weapons hitting an invulnerable
shield. How can a sword rebel?
Quite irrelevant. it's a d**n spell.
4) In the 6th episode Witterquick must have been running in Cheetah form for quite a long time... okay,
maybe he returned to human and we just didn't see it. But also, on the way there when he was using his lightspeed power, he crossed over water a lot of water, right up to the point when he reached Hesquidor (or however you spell it). How did he run back??
I'm sure Witterquick managed to find a way back ---> maybe a boat!
5) In the 9th episode Lexor complains that he can't swim, but in the 7th episode he clearly does swim, and thinks it's funny that Darkstorm can't!
Give me a break, he didn't say he wasn't afraid of water, he just stated that he couldn't swim in the specific circumstance! Whatever are the reasons he couldn't... the situation revolved around a pond, as far as I remember.
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This is a NEAR perfect series, HUNDREDS of feets ABOVE the average "Eighties cartoon", so please don't tarnish its legacy by promoting lame bloopers you can easily unflub through your imagination.
Well, since I can't cope with the fact 'VISIONARIES' (1987) presents some small "mistakes", "bloopers", "flubs" or whatever you call 'em, I will fix EVERYTHING the best I can, just for the sake of it.
Call me "childish", I don't really care. I unflub the flubs.
--------------------------------------------------------------->
TOTEM FORMS, POWER STAFF, POWERS:
Some guy noticed the Totems, Bearers and images disappear or re-appear from both Power Staffs and chestplates without any friggin' logic reason... well, it's about some interferences in the Magical Light manifestations. Now you see it, now you don't. I think the energy (the Magical Light) 'stored' into the Visionaries works as a kind of "electricity". So, even if a Visionary has actually spent all the energy of his Power Staff, there are still remnants lying and creeping into it - that's why for brief lapses of time the image of the Bearer can re-appear even if the Staff is technically empty, and viceversa.
Another example, in the 4th episode, "The Price of Freedom":
During the Spectral Knight / Darkling Lord fight, Lexor punches Witterquick. During this little scene the totem on Lexor’s chest is of a blue cheetah rather than a green armadillo.
Temporary and skin-deep transmission of Magical Light. The chestplates works as receivers. Oddities like that can happen all the time when you deal with the Magical Light.
Mmmm... another interesting "error" someone spotted long time ago is INDEED a great evidence in my book! There's a sequence where Reekon manage to activate some sort of 'TORCH'. Energy-powered? No, of course, since electricity is an utopy on Prysmos since the accident.
This is the evidence (the one I was looking for) that Feryl and all the metal-awekeningVisionaries can indeed 'power'
any type of technology, not just vehicles!
As far as concerned Feryl: I also remember he used a sophisticated weapon (a 'Blaster' or something like that) which clearly belonged to the old technology as well.
----------------------------------------------------------->
COLOURS and EQUIPPMENT:
1) The characters weren't terribly consistent there either, though its harder to notice with the motion. If you look at the screenshots you can see that the detail on the armour swaps around a lot (which
is one of the reasons I find it so hard to get a cannon image of each set of armour in mind) - with more or less detail depending on what you look at.
Prysmosian armours - being made by some unspecified alien material - are way too much 'fluid' and elastic, to the point the 'details' either wrap, fold or mix-up in the middle of a "motion". Samely, we can assume
that some of them use to reflect certain types of lights in such unusual manner. That's why Arzon's or Cryotek's armours colors revert or invert (whatever) for very short lapses of time.
2) Cryotek's helmet is sometimes coloured red instead of blue by mistake (1st episode and others).
See the previous answer. His armour has been forged by a Northalian smith who utilized a special type of tissue. By the right inclination of light, under special circumstances, the colours can briefly reverse themselves or acquire different chromatic tones. Remember, it's an alien planet after all.
Probably the same tissue constitutes the "basic material" to fashion Arzon's armour.
During the 3d episode, when the Spectral Knights escape from the prison, Arzon's armour appears red and blue for a split second.
As far as concerned Arzon, it's pretty clear that his hair have blonde shades, that's why in a scene of the 1st episode they appear as such (when Leoric is given his lion totem).
3) Leoric wears his gloves/gauntlets/whatevers one moment then isn't the next (I think the 4th episode is an example).
We viewers aren't meant to see the in-between scenes which are indeed supposed to be 'boring' as hell... they are IN-BETWEEN scenes for a reason!
Even in movies that frequently happens.
A scene where Leoric either wears or slips away his gloves (or the helmet, or whatever you want) is not THAT MUCH interesting in the biggest design of the screenplay. We don't watch it, but that's not a valid reason to affirm that it actually didn't happen! One moment before Leoric has the helmet, one moment after he hasn't. He dropped it. End of the story.
4)Sometimes the top of a staff is apparently missing. It is in crowd scenes when the staffs are strapped to their backs.
Easy. The staffs are strapped but not steady, and sometimes they can rotate on themselves, so the top (the "screen") can be placed with its side towards we viewers. Optical effect.
5) Now, the 'AMBUSH' scene in the 3d EPISODE where the Staffs went apparentely 'muddled up'.
My theory is that the Spectral Knights were bringing fake gold Staffs paired with the true ones in order to fool the Darkling Lords if they would have showed up!
Before the Darkling Lords Ambush, the Spectral Knights are apparently carrying the following staffs:
Leoric - one silver (his)
Galadria - one gold (Darkstorm's)
Cryotek - one of each (his and Cindarr's)
Witterquick - one of each (his and Cravex's)
Arzon - one silver (his)
Lexor's is missing (I presume Arzon got it)
In the close-up pictures they have the following staffs:
Arzon had two silver staffs (Witterquick gave 'Light-Speed' to him for a while)
Cryotek 1 gold / silver (his and Cindarr's)
Galadria one gold (Darkstorm's)
Leoric one silver
Witterquick (not shown)
Note: when the avalanche hits the Spectral Knights, all the Staffs appear 'silver' because the specific light reflection. It's just ONE LONG-SHOT anyway.
As the avalanche starts they have:
Cryotek has two silver staffs - his and Cindarr's
Whitterquick has two silver staffs - his and Cravex's
Arzon has two silver staffs (his and Lexor's, as I stated before)
In the close-up pictures:
Witterquick drops 2 gold staffs - Cravex's and Lexor's
Arzon drops 2 gold staffs (The two fake gold Staffs)
Galadria drops 1 gold staff - Darkstorm's
Cryotek has Cindarr's staff, as stated before.
Darkstorm then picks up two silver staffs and throws them off the cliff - (Cryotek's / Arzon's)
Cindarr picks up his staff, from Cryotek
Cravex picks up his and Lexor's staffs
Arzon then lands with two staffs, his and Cryotek's
Feryl has a silver staff at the end (Leoric's or Cryotek's, it doesn't matter. He was just helping along the way)
Again, we're not suppose to see the IN-BETWEEN scenes... and now... the biggest surprise of all:
The fake gold staffs show up later, in the last part of the episode! In fact, even Mortdredd and Reekon hand Power Staffs (?) when the Darkling Lords go to the Shrine in need of Magical Light re-charging. Well, maybe the two Darkling Lords hoped to imbue 'em with some magic as well... I'm a man of great vision.
----------------------------------------------------------------->
CHARACTER INCONSISTENCIES:
1) In the 4th episode Arzon and Feryl have a fight with the Darkling Lords, the Capture Chariot is damaged and they start slowly making their way home.
Yet in the next scene you can clearly see Arzon is among the Spectral Knights offering blankets to the Kamirites. In the next scene he's still making his way back with Feryl.
I've found the coolest solution in town, Visionaries fans all around the world. 'HE' was one of Leoric's 'regular' Knight disguised as Arzon --- think of him like a 'sparring double' (or a 'stand-in') to cover up the fact that one of the Spectral Knights is in fact missing. Leoric has wit, he's a d**n smart thinker. He knows that the Darkling Lords always lurk in the shadows, waiting for the precious moment in which the Spectral Knights are weaker or basically disjointed. So, in order to discourage them and so prevent fierce raids, the hero of New Valarak picked up a bunch of soldiers whose look-like and traits resembled those of the Spectral Knights. When some of the SK stay out of the castle for many days, and their presence is required for public and strategic appareances, the 'sparring doubles' are allowed to wear fake armours and mystificate the disappearence of Leoric's Visionary fellows.
The coming of the Kamirites was such a pivotal event that Leoric couldn't pay risks, he preferred to substitute Arzon, giving an 'esthetical' sense of unity to the crowd. Yet, Feryl was also missing, but having one member out is an okay thing, having two is simply too much.
2) At the beginning of the 2nd episode when the Darkling Lords are after Arzon, three of the Darkling Lords are on higher ground. Cindarr yells to attack or
something, but he isn't one of the three that jumps down. I think they were Cravex, Lexor and Mortdread. He was either invisible, has a very loud voice or someone does a pretty decent impression of him
Irrelevant. He was elsewhere, still yelling an screaming to encourage the passionate actions of his fellow Darkling Lords. Voices are often mistaken, however. A voice can sound louder than how it usually does. It happens all the time in real life.
3) In Lexor's activation poem he usually says blahblah... "swords rebel..." but at one point (sorry I can't remember when it was at the moment) I swear he said "repel" instead. This actually makes more sense if you think about weapons hitting an invulnerable
shield. How can a sword rebel?
Quite irrelevant. it's a d**n spell.
4) In the 6th episode Witterquick must have been running in Cheetah form for quite a long time... okay,
maybe he returned to human and we just didn't see it. But also, on the way there when he was using his lightspeed power, he crossed over water a lot of water, right up to the point when he reached Hesquidor (or however you spell it). How did he run back??
I'm sure Witterquick managed to find a way back ---> maybe a boat!
5) In the 9th episode Lexor complains that he can't swim, but in the 7th episode he clearly does swim, and thinks it's funny that Darkstorm can't!
Give me a break, he didn't say he wasn't afraid of water, he just stated that he couldn't swim in the specific circumstance! Whatever are the reasons he couldn't... the situation revolved around a pond, as far as I remember.
------------------------------------------------------------->
This is a NEAR perfect series, HUNDREDS of feets ABOVE the average "Eighties cartoon", so please don't tarnish its legacy by promoting lame bloopers you can easily unflub through your imagination.